Sad to let these go but they don’t fit my postpartum body. I think I wore these twice, they’re in like new condition. Waist is about 12.5” and stretches to about 17”. Rise is about 10.5”. Always washed in scent free detergent and hung dry. Only mod is I swapped the waistband out for the WELS waistband, which I think is more comfortable. I have three other pairs (Espresso, Lime Gingham, and Grey Blue). Bundle two or more for a discount.