These were my “Ride or Die’s” for 2 yrs. The Oreo cookie fades are amazing. I looove this pair but I have a much smaller waist size now. Never washed or soaked. Rear knees will honeycomb with wash. Fit- Weird Guy (this is a straight leg cut) Size- 36” X 33” my inseam is 33 but the true measurement is 19.5” X 32” hem is proper chain stitch on Union Machine by Mildblend in Chicago Notes: They have been darned for a previous blowout. Rear left pocket has a small hole from corner of wallet.