Reposhing this item I purchased from @lisadr143. WHY? They were listed on men's but they are women's size 8.5. I'm not trying to make any money, just what I paid for these shoes. I did remove the tags, because I thought they were men's. However, I only wore them inside my house for about 2 minutes. I still have the tags. They are still perfect and new. Perfect for Pickleball, Tennis, etc. Plenty of padding and support. I wear the men's version of this shoe and I like it for the low price, control, foot and back support as well as arch support. I play pickleball 2-3 times a week. I wore one pair for over 9 months before I had worn out the cushioning in the shoe.