NEW Without Box. May have been subject to shelf life or store try-ons. No apparent signs of wear. Please Note: Donald Pliner Black Leather Loafer Mule size 8, however, I think these run a bit small. I think they fit more like 7.5. I measured the length of the sole & they measure 10 & 3/4” in length. Compare that length to a pair of your favorite shoes. Leather is shiny & textured. Cream stitching. Tan trim. Beautiful quality.