Two pairs Orvis khaki canvas pants 38w

2 pair Orvis heavy cotton Orvis canvas pants size tag 38w 30l. 28.5 inseam no cuffs. Matching pair belonged to same individual. Years of use to go. These are a heavy outdoor wear type item not office Khakis. Sort of a 2 for one deal price includes shipping. 100% cotton. Try on indicates not a generous 38 at waist but roomy in trunk are below waistband.