This is a beautiful loafer and a staple for any woman’s closet. I am only selling because I bought the same shoe with the thicker and higher sole. I have worn these shoes about 4 times! I love the look of these loafers and you will not be disappointed. They will fit a 8.5/9 comfortably as that is what I wear, I don’t have the box but will package them carefully to ship😁. Ask any questions you might have.