NWOT. I have tried these on several times in my closet hoping they’ll work for me, never worn outside. Currently at AYR: https://www.ayr.com/products/the-roadie Features a slight drop crotch and an easy, relaxed fit. If in between sizes, we recommend sizing down. Intended to sit 1 1/4” below your belly button. Key Measurements (from waist size 28): Front Rise: 10 3/4" Leg Opening: 17" Long Inseam: 30 1/2"