Reposhing this item I purchased from @cat137. Based on the linen Beyond Nine pants I love, I thought the XL would work well (ample space but nice and firm at the waist) but these run on the large size of xl. The advice from reviews on the BN site agree that these run generous and if btwn sizes, you should size down. I’m so sad. But hope this info is useful to someone else who will love them. Also worth adding: these are nice and heavy. Great for winter and layers! Measurements flat and approximate: Waist unstretched/stretched: ~ 17” / 21” Hip: 28” Thigh: 16” Rise: 14.5” Inseam: 26” Questions? Leave a comment below!