First and foremost, y’all this is like one of the biggest back packs I’ve ever had. It’s got 4 separate compartments, and then compartments for organization inside of those and space for a hydration pack, or laptop. Hard back for protection. This is more for school, travel or day trips hiking. Not an all purpose hiking backpack. Also it’s so damn cute I just used it even when I wasent hiking 😂 Kelty is also one of the best brand in the outdoors and hiking industry. Make an offer😘 or trade!