I’ve had these pants for a very long time and I’m afraid I’m still unable to ski beyond the children’s slopes- they have been hanging in the back of my closet, collecting dust. I can now say the pants have been dusted off and are in need of a new owner. Beware the front of the pants and bottom have some scuff marks as pictured. Did I mention I couldn’t ski well? Anyway, I’ve worn these a handful of times and other from the scuffs (unfortunately they show nicely because of the color of pants), these are still super nice pants and would be great for the mountain. If you’re good with a few scuff marks, these Patagonia pants are the ones- and if you’re an XS. I am no longer a size small, just another reason these must go. Happy Poshing, Margaret