Set your time machine back to 2010: men were learning how to dress themselves (mostly as people planning for gold on 1849, but with a modern twist), selvedge was a shibboleth for quality, and the rule for pants was Size Down. So I did, which is why these are size 30 and not size 33. I managed to have kids anyway, no harm done, but I digress. Bought at my trimmest, these Wolf vs Goat work pants feature a hefty selvage duck, great pockets, horn buttons for a button fly and suspender buttons, and a vestigial back buckle. They're heavy duty and have definitely been worn, you can see the striations from washing but they're not like gross used raws, covered on filth and sweat. They werent hemmed so there's lots of leg to work with, and before WvG took to trying manufacturing overseas in many different ports of call, these were made right here in the US, with no snarky care button. Honestly, Mauro should remake these, but he's a coward.