I bought these shoes to walk the Camino de Santiago in 2024, but I wore these in my backyard and knew they weren't the ones. I bought the shoes a full size larger because everyone had given the advice to buy bigger shoes for the walk. . These are women's 13 or a men's 11. I love, love, love the look of these shoes, but they were a bit too roomy for me and I didn't want to wear super thick socks to make them more wearable.