Fake wildfox? OPINIONS NEEDED
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SO, long story short- I bought wildfox cover up from a posher a while back & just got it out to wear yesterday. I think it's fake and posher got defensive and said no way it's fake bc she got it on yoox.com, but I've read terrible reviews of yoox. I have 3 wildfox pieces of my own that were bought IN STORE at Bloomingdales and compared. I'm almost certain it is fake. Please give me your input! (Details/discrepancies continued in comments).
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alyssaxpotts
Picture 1: bottom right = fake. Notice the other 2 have the R on the right side of the tag, and the other is the swim collection (which is what this cover up is under on the wildfox website).
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
Picture 2: bottom = fake. Notice the difference in the thread and the stitching?
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
Picture 3: right side of each picture = fake. First picture, notice the different strings used to hold the tag, and how the real one from Bloomingdales has the W bead on it. Pic 2 tags are lined up equally (doesn't look like it bc I couldn't get to lay flat) but letters don't match up
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
Last pic in picture 3: most noticeably- the one I think is fake has a tag in another language on it, which part of it had been ripped off by the seller. If you look closer though, real one says wildfox.com on it, fake says (you can see it under the sticker) "wildfoxcouture.com" which doesn't exist. Their website is just wildfox.com.
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
Also, she said it was originally $95, but the highest one in this style of cover up is $84 (that I have found). Most are $76 though. She sent me the receipt email from yoox and it was $32 on their website but she paid $28 with some sort of discount.
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
I didn't ask her for a refund, I just told her it was fake and was annoyed she had put "100% AUTHENTIC WILDFOX" on the listing. It would be one thing if she took my comments into consideration and apologized, but instead she told me I was wrong and there was NO WAY it was fake, so I wanted other opinions.
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
I understand if she didn't know it was fake, because she does have proof she bought it from a website, but when I pointed out that the website has been known to be unreliable and send fake/damaged goods, she would hear nothing of it.
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
Thanks for sharing @bellanblue !!
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
** I do believe that she didn't know for sure if it was fake. Yoox does sell real brands, but their ethics have been questioned a lot. Many many MANY reviews of people getting used or damaged items, items that are completely different than what they ordered, knock off clothing, and things in different sizes/colors than they ordered.
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
Looking at the pictures though, what do you think? Too many things are different. And the heart is very off center when it's on. I explained in the comments what I thought was off in each picture. @ridinghood13 . Thanks for your time!
May 16Reply

linsleppo
@ridinghood13 Jen will know ☺️
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
Every wildfox item I have and have seen on all other items has the tag with the bead on it and it's attached to the label. The one I think is fake is just a string attached to the under arm of the top with a safety pin (which, in and of itself isn't odd, a lot of brands do that). There is no bead on this one and the string is totally different. And the material feels different than my other WF tops with the same composition
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
I will comment it in one of your listings!
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
@ridinghood13 ^
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
@ridinghood13 added another picture of the tag so you could see the writing in the other language. That's what caught my attention, and then I compared tags and stitching and stuff. This isn't an old piece, maximum 2 years ago I would say. I will try to find out exact date though.
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
Okay. I am sure the others are real due to where I purchased them. It was just the one from posh I was unsure of. (The one labeled in each picture). Comparing it to my 3 known authentic pieces, and a couple of my roommates known authentic pieces (all of our pieces were purchased from urban, Bloomingdales, or WF website),
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
...(con't) the tan one just didn't look right. I know with most everything, stitching is usually a huge indicator of authenticity, and when that was off too, it sent off the alarms in my head haha @ridinghood13
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
Thank you sooo much for your time and input!! I appreciate it! @ridinghood13
May 16Reply

brittanyroyal
I'm almost certain that all your items pictured are authentic. There is a lot of variance on labels, depending on the store that sells them and the country that manufactured them. I've been a die hard Wildfox fan for over 5 years. 😊
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
@brittanyroyal thanks! Yeah I knew the 3 I already had were real so it was just odd to me that they all had the same stitching, tags, markings, etc. and that one had everything completely different. It was very sketchy to me. All of my stuff is newer though, 2014.
May 16Reply

alyssaxpotts
@brittanyroyal the decal is also VERY off center. It's awkward looking when it's on.
May 16Reply

onceuponathyme
Comparing your tags to those in my closet (I have a few dozen WF pieces purchased from reputable stores - Nordy's, etc...), mine have quite a bit of variance in their tags, some with the plastic on the string, others without. I also know that Yoox is a European company. Stickers tags with Italian and French writing are not an indication of "fake," but rather an indication of what country Yoox sourced from. Bottom line - I don't think the variances I'm seeing in your images mean "fake."
May 17Reply

onceuponathyme
I get your frustration; I hate fakes. I also see the other side of the coin. I would be upset if someone accused me of selling something as a fake when I was certain it was authentic. We all have a tendency to get defensive when we feel we are being attacked or our honesty is being called into question. Just my 2 cents. :-) Happy Poshing.
May 17Reply

onceuponathyme
One more thing ... WF is made in China. I once had someone claim something I sold on eBay was fake because it had a Made in China tag on it ... but ... it WAS made in China (as are many "upscale manufacturers' items, to my horror).
:-/
May 17Reply

alyssaxpotts
@onceuponathyme yeah, I just don't trust online stores. I have a lot of high end stuff, and like to only buy high end stuff from reputable stores like Nordstrom, bloomies, saks, neimans, etc. with all of the knock off stuff being sold today, especially on posh, you can never be too sure.
May 17Reply

alyssaxpotts
@onceuponathyme I prefer when it's like Louis Vuitton, where they do everything uniform so if something is fake, it's easy to tell (if you know your stuff). You would think WF would start doing that considering all of the fake WF circulating. (Especially the Lennon sweater).
May 17Reply

alyssaxpotts
@onceuponathyme has WF recently changed, maybe? All of my WF pieces say made in USA! Maybe they changed to USA to try and keep knock offs at bay. I know an issue a lot of upscale brands that have factories in China have is the workers will work for them during the day and then go "moonlight" at another factory at night and make fake stuff since they know the ins and outs of the real thing.
May 17Reply

onceuponathyme
You know - honestly, I'm a little confused on that. I recently bought a bunch of WF - around a dozen pieces - for myself, including a half dozen same-style at Hautelook (the online store for Nordstrom's Rack).
May 17Reply

onceuponathyme
Most of them are marked Made in the USA on the side tag, but a couple of the oversized sweaters are marked Made in China. So I just assumed they are not all made in the US? I don't think Nordy's is selling fakes... or maybe their sweaters are made in China and other things are made here? I guess I need to look at the rest of my sweaters and see what they say.
May 17Reply

onceuponathyme
COACH is made in China now! And yes - I have heard the same thing about the Chinese employees moonlighting doing knock-offs. :-/
May 17Reply

alyssaxpotts
@onceuponathyme it baffles me how companies can have stuff made in so many different countries! I'm still upset that Louis Vuitton neverfull's are made in the USA now and not in France still. 😔 my moms is from France and mine is from the USA and they're only about a year apart in age.
May 17Reply

alyssaxpotts
@onceuponathyme and as for WF sweaters, maybe they make them in China bc the "wool" type material is cheaper in China? I suppose that's also why the majority of knock off WF is sweaters. I see those more than anything.
May 17Reply

onceuponathyme
I see both points ... on one hand, I hate outsourcing to other countries - on the other, they have to stay in business and how can you do that if you're paying $15/hour for manufacturing? Ugh. it's a conundrum.
May 17Reply

alyssaxpotts
@onceuponathyme I know. I agree. The main part of being a business is making the most money possible. And I get that. I just hate knock offs/people who sell knock offs. I'm just so against it. And those who claim "oh it's real, it was just one that wasn't perfect and they threw it away." (Aka canal (sp???) st. In NYC. Like LV destroys imperfect bags. If you're going to sell fake, own up to it. (Although I don't support ANY fake bags/clothes/etc
May 17Reply

alyssaxpotts
@onceuponathyme it's just annoying when you do buy REAL things at full price and you see people selling/owning fake things at ¼ the price. I wish China would get with the times and follow our copyright/patent/trademark laws, but that will never happen because they make money off of it. It's not fair that China doesn't recognize intellectual property rights. 😔 unfair to the REAL producers, and to the people who are duped by middle-men into thinking its a real/authentic product.
May 17Reply

themodestpear
im a wildfox lover too! the item u are concerned about is definitely authentic. its weird that the labels vary but ive had many without the "R" at the end that were purchased from nordstrom/bloomingdales and even from the wildfox website. i guess it depends on what year/ location they were made?
May 17Reply

themodestpear
the tag part with the wrong website is kind of odd tho. not sure how that happened. but the shirt itself is real hahah
May 17Reply

alyssaxpotts
@pandenguin yeah it's so strange. Who knows. Like I said, they should start regulating their stuff and making everything the same so the fakes can be easily spotted. Maybe now that's why they put the R on it.
May 17Reply

erix
I can't comment in my original list anymore. Please read the original list first.
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
@erix I didn't tag you for a reason. Not because I didn't want people to see your original posting, but so that it wouldn't embarrass you or that people wouldn't post negative things on your page if it HAD ended up being fake. I stated on here that I didn't think you purposely sold it to me as a fake, and that I didn't even know if it was fake,
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
But it was just very sketchy to me. I feel that it should have been noted in the listing where it was bought and that it had tags from another country on it. It would have cut off any confusion before the transaction occurred. I feel that everything should be stated up front on any transaction, especially when there are tags In a different language.
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
And like I said, I didn't think you purposely/maliciously sold me a fake item. I was just trying to figure out if it WAS fake. And it's not, as others have pointed out. They said themselves though, that some things were suspect, so they understood why I thought so.
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
You say WF isn't a high end brand, but I meant it in the fact that it's expensive. It runs in the high $70's up to $300+. I know high end, I own multiple Louis Vuitton, Chanel, Tory burch, Etc. Items. I wasn't insinuating that WF was high end like that, but in the fact that it's expensive and well sought after and there are a lot of knock offs going around of their stuff, like in high end stuff.
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
And no, I haven't felt any fake items bc I've never bought them. I wasn't trying to attack you or anything. I was just asking. I felt like you weren't forthcoming in the listing with there it was purchased and even that the way you positioned it in a picture, you adjusted it so that the heart didn't look off center, which it is (very much so). It's okay if you say your English isn't great, but what bothered me in your comments to me were your usage of capital letters.
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
It's very rude to do, as it implies that you are yelling at someone, and that annoyed me, as I was just questioning something that I had a right to question. Note also, that I never asked for my money back. It's not like I was trying to scam you or demand a full refund. I was just trying to see if it was authentic and see where it was purchased. I never asked to return it or to get my money back or anything of the sort.
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
You called me unprofessional, but I also think it is unprofessional for you to "yell" at a customer for asking questions and pointing out discrepancies. You say you are s professional buyer, and if so, it is professional and expected to list every detail of the item. Where it was purchased, what year it is from if it is found that the brand changed logos/tags/countries/etc in the past couple of years.
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
Confusion would have been avoided if it stated it was purchased online and the site buys from stores worldwide, so it had tags in a different language.
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
And just because I don't trust yoox doesn't mean I shouldn't shop online. I only online shop for high end stuff on that brand's official website. That's the only way you know what you're getting. Yoox does have a lot of terrible reviews, and I am allowed to believe those, just like you are allowed to believe the good ones.
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
I do not trust sites that sell merchandise for much cheaper than retail, because often that means it is fake or damaged, as is often the case on yoox, based on what I have read. (I mean hundreds of reviews. Not just a couple). That's all I have to say. I put it on here since you said it was "bad form accusing [you] without any proof even [i] didn't tell [your] name."
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
Which as I said before, was so that I didn't embarrass you. Most people would be thankful that I didn't tag them in this. And I did have proof that I thought meant it was fake. My concerns were legitimate concerns and they make sense. It's rare to see that many discrepancies in a single brand. It's not "unprofessional" or "bad form" to ask if an item you paid for was authentic or not when you have concerns about it.
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
Also, it's why I said I THINK it is fake and asked for opinions. Some poshers would have made a listing with your profile in it saying you sell fake stuff. But I was just trying to see if it really was, or if WF changed the way they made their clothes recently. I bought 2 of those items in the pictures a month before I bought the top from you, and since you didn't say it wasn't a recent top, I found it weird that it was completely different from the other tags/items
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
I didn't knock you in my comments. I just stated what happened & what I thought so I could get an outsider's opinion. As you can tell from my closet, I do shop high end very often. I just didn't like that my first posh purchase was something that I felt may have been fake. I now believe that it is real, and was going to come back to your listing to apologize, but I have been very busy bc I take my LSAT in 3 weeks & I have been studying for the past 24 hours & haven't been on posh a lot. @erix
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
One last thing, sorry! I also wasn't worried about commenting on your listing because it WAS from so long ago. There's no way anyone would be looking that far down your closet and that far down your sold items to see my comments. Your reputation wasn't tarnished because no one would see it, unless you told them to look at it. It my intention was to start drama, I would have posted on a recent popular listing of yours, but I didn't bc I didn't want to call you out like that.
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
Okay actually this is the last comment- it also really struck me as odd when I went to look at the listing the other day & you said to someone else your lowest was $38, bc it was "already priced lower than what you paid for it." But you sent me the receipt, & you paid $28. I get doing business, but if you think I'm, unprofessional, I also think it is unprofessional to blatantly lie to a customer. You could have just said it's already priced at 50% off of retail.
May 18Reply

alyssaxpotts
@erix sorry for so many comments. I hate that posh limits how much you can put in one comment. This whole thing was nothing personal. It was just me ensuring that I hadn't been scammed, which as you said you know, happens often on posh. When I bought it I was brand new to posh and didn't know fake WF was made, so I wouldn't have looked at it. (My fault, which is also why I never asked for a refund or anything).
May 18Reply

alibfcat
Hi, I also have older styles which are authentic with wildfoxcouture.com tag. I have seen variance in hang tags, even white label some with gold "string" and safety pin, and some with the plastic "W" or heart bead. All authentic from Stores like Saks/off 5th/Nordstrom/Neiman Marcus & Century 21.
May 19Reply

alibfcat
Agree with @ridinghood13 about the labels and website issue too.
May 19Reply

mermaidsflytoo
I think it's real still my tags looked different from those even and I bought from dollskill.
May 19Reply

gab34
Agreed. Fake. I hate that! So sorry to hear i bet you paid a lot
May 20Reply

linsleppo
@thirteensporks Wait- 1st pic bottom right is authentic? And 2nd pic bottom?
Mar 25Reply

alyssaxpotts
@linsleppo .. The one that is labeled "fake" was the item in question. I still don't know about it because the quality is terrible. The image on it is off center and not located where it should be on the garment.
Mar 25Reply

linsleppo
@thirteensporks I'm confused. So it doesn't have to have the trademark to be authentic? On the label?
Mar 25Reply

alyssaxpotts
It's not the tag that's off center. It's the actual design on the front of the garment
Mar 25Reply

alyssaxpotts
It's so bad that I don't even wear it. Ive seen pictures and it's supposed to be in the center. It is visibly off center with the dip in the neckline
Mar 25Reply

linsleppo
@thirteensporks Not the tag off center- the image on the top.
Mar 25Reply

alyssaxpotts
It's a coverup with a heart on it. I'll see if I can find a pic. I'm not home and don't know where it is to be honest. This post is almost a year old. I don't even use posh mark currently because I'm too busy.
Mar 25Reply

flyinariesangel
I was looking up on how to tell which r authentic & which r fake.. the body tags read & show differently as well.. so there is another heads up. Fake body care tage shows at the top as BODY:
The Authentic has BODY/CORPS: along with as follows 54% Acrylic & Acrylique & so on👌🏻✨ its a shame that others try & fake other brands out there, which makes it sometimes harder to spot the real from the fake & some not being aware of who r selling or buying.
Nov 28Reply

twiceasloved
@alyssaxpotts I really had no idea there was faux Wildfox out there and it's probably my favorite brand of all time. Thank you so so much because I buy a lot from eBay/merc/here and now I know to be more careful!!
Mar 06Reply

discocatnap
I worked at wildfox for almost 7 years and I can tell you if it is an older item it wont have the R on the woven label! Also, we would often change the hangtags or the factory who made them. There are for sure fakes out there, but your better off looking at the quality of the screen print or jersey it is made out of. Sorry that probably doesn't help you much.
Apr 14Reply

christinawehry
@thirteensporks how can you tell if a white label tag is fake?
May 15Reply

thegetfitnurse
@discocatnap Can you help me verify if an item I am thinking about purchasing on PM is authentic? I can tag you in the listing. Listings like this have me paranoid about authenticity. Also, I'm always on the lookout for a good deal so I do a lot of price comparison shopping and it's hard to look up older WF pieces without knowing the year/season. Finally, can you explain to me the difference between white label and regular WF?? Thank you!!
Jun 11Reply

mejiavictoria86
@alyssaxpotts so not all tags have the R on it correct
Jun 16Reply

elissanicole
@christinawehry Right? With so many variations in authentic pieces, how would anyone ever know? Tag me if you happen to get more info please!
Jul 17Reply

schmugglemoo
@bean5669 Interesting stuff for our new obsession!
Feb 09Reply

arabbitortwo
Hi, I didn't have time to read the long list of comments but I am a veteran fashion journalist who went to their official NY launch and fyi my pieces have varying stitching and some do not have the registered trademark symbol. Yoox is not a resale site and while I am not a fan of theirs, I do not believe they sell counterfeits. Hope this helps.
Feb 13Reply

thekawaiikitten
Wildfox does have older pieces without the copyright symbol on the tags. I got these items from their site so I’m positive they’re real.
The site url on hangtag isn’t a good determiner either. They used to do wildfox.com but the last items I got from their website a couple weeks ago had wildfoxcouture.com
Lots of fakes are missing the care tag. And lots of the gold labels have a missing “e” — they say white “labl”
Nov 02Reply

thekawaiikitten
The hangtag string is a good determiner. It is always a thin twisted string with the plastic WF circle. You need to cut them off to remove so I’ve seen a few cases where people clearly had a legit WF item, wore it, decided to sell as NWT and used a different string to attach. Still deceptive but that’s how a legit item may have the wrong string.
Nov 02Reply

thekawaiikitten
But to be fair in the string, lots of dept stores sell Wildfox and it’s conceivable that someone could return an item with removed tags. The store would reattach the tags with whatever they have available. I worked at a customer service desk for a NMarcus dept store as a teen and we did this all the time.
Nov 02Reply

thekawaiikitten
The only 100% telltale I’ve seen is the fake gold white label tag missing the “e”. Those garments are also missing a care tag
I looked at a few WF swim garments purchased from the WF website and one of them has the heart unevenly positioned. I’m 100% sure it’s authentic since I got it directly from their site. So I guess it’s plausible that they had a bad run of tags
Nov 02Reply

thekawaiikitten
It seems only certain items are faked. The stag sweater, seeing stars, love potion, little Edie sweater, palmetto v neck sweaters, etc. And the quality issues are usually very obvi (esp on love potion!) So unless it’s a popular common item, I generally don’t get too worried.
Nov 02Reply

socialthrifter_
hi, i think i may have just bought fake wildfox to :(
Apr 14Reply

lbodreau
I HAVE LITERALLY TAKEN TO STALKING THE FAKES ON POSHMARK. I HAD ALSO BOUGHT A WILDFOX COUTURE LIP SERVICE 💋SWEATSHIRT. I OWN ONE ALREADY FROM THE AUTHENTIC WILDFOX WEBSITE. IT IS ABSOLUTELY SOFT STRETCHY FRENCH TERRYCLOTH HANGS OFF MY SHOULDER W EASE. THE SELLER SOLD ME A HANES SWEATSHIRT WITH THE FAKE BLACK TAG HANGING OFF ONE SIDE. MATERIAL TAGS CUT OUT.
Mar 20Reply

lbodreau
I was buying it for my niece. Poshmark paid her and basically told me to kick rocks or reposh. I would NEVER. I left a comment warning people that PM took down. they also removed my rating. they blocked me from leaving her anything else. I reported them to the better business bureau and I am constantly calling seller's out on a daily basis and being blocked 🚫. Poshmark makes $$ off the fakes and they allow it.
Mar 20Reply
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