These were supposed to be for me, BUT, quite unfortunately, they're just too damn small. Excuse my language, but I'm not happy about it, at all... They have a 9" inseam, and they are 14" across at rest, and can stretch up to 18"-19" comfortably, (28w-36w), so if you wear a 30-32 waist, then these are perfect for you, even if you wear a 34w, still, good, once you start wearing a 36w then you're pushing the limit of comfort.... 38w and up is out! **So, these are like a M/L, and the length is 23" My price for these is a LITTLE flexible, only bcuz I want them out of my face, reminding me that what would be my favorite shorts, don't fit. It really does upset me that much, bcuz these shorts are NOT CHEAP!!! Selling for anywhere from $190-$350, (some sites and retailers will try to get +$400, craziness). I got them for less than normal, bcuz I didn't know what size they were when I purchased, I just saw a deal, and jumped, (Oops), now, I just want them out of my face..... It's important to say, they're not quite new, the bag and most of the stuff that came with it are still there.... If you're willing to let me keep the green camo sash, (pictured in the first photo), I'll give you $25 off the top....