these are soft .. the waist is my favorite, I really enjoy how light yet warm these are. they are basically new but I've had them sitting for like a year. priced to sell , grab you a good deal on your new fav sweats 😀😀❤️⁉️ k thanks byeeeee oh and id say be on the smaller size of a large they listed as large but... unless you like tight sweats which I don't 😂😂 I'm a medium and I'd wear them happily.