These are really cool y'all. I boought these brand new at the J Crew Men's Store (RIP) at North Park mall in Dallas. I want to say the year was 2018. I immediately lost weight and these pants were too big for me. I've worn them maybe twice. Why do I still have them? I'm hoping they will go to someone who they actually fit! Anway, I would describe the color of these pants as a dressy version of Carhartt brown? They're the 484 slim fit stretch chinos.